Least favorite guitarists.

Sotonushka
@sotonushka
3 years ago
1 posts

Hey there guys!

We all know that everyone has their own short list of favorite musicians. Most of them inspired us to start playing musical instruments and we may use them as role models and learn from them. Topics about most favorite musicians exist on every music-related forum. And how about sharing your least favorite musicians? Those who disappointed you at some point. Let's not mention our neighbors or "that guy from the show last night" and focus on those more or less famous.

I'll start.

Recently I had a "pleasure" to pick up a Destruction song by ear. As one of the most iconic German Thrash Metal bands they sure have their own sound which in their case is raw. It didn't help me so I had to slow the track down a little and split in mono channels. What I heard there was awful their Guitarist didn't bother himself with matching the guitar parts, sometimes he simply skipped notes and acted rather random. So Mike Sefinger from Destruction is one of my least favorite guitarists now.

Another one I'd like to mention is not a celebrity but a well known person for those who belong to youtube guitar community. I'm talking about Rob Scallon. I'm subscribed to his channel, I adore his precise technique and his comedy videos, but I can't stand his original music. Utilizing tapping, slap and and finger picking he, as I see it, focuses more on complexity rather than composition.

Now your turn, guys. And remember, everything is IMHO, so don't get much into argument =)

PaulJones9
@pauljones
3 years ago
26 posts

I really dislike any guitarist who focuses too much on tecnhique skills while not providing what's necessary to the music.  Moreover, a lot of this type of guitarist's music lacks compositional quality since the attention is drawn only to the guitar parts while leaving boring parts for the rest of the instruments.  I know a lot of amazing guitarists whose music sucks. I may offend a lot of guitarists around here, but here are my least favorite ones ( keep in mind that this is just my personal opinion):

Yngwie Malmsteem: Sure, he's a great player, but his music really doesn't offer much than just showing off his skills

Steve Vai: Another great player, but I just can't take anyone who puts a fan in front of him onstage to make him look more epic or whatever. A lot of his music would sound like 70's porn if you took away the guitar solos.

James Hetfield: He is not even a good player. He should stick to vocals.


updated by @pauljones: 06 Nov 2016 21:34:39
spoonman
@spoonman
3 years ago
11 posts

Dear Paul, thinking what Mark Knopfler tells with a limited number of notes comparing Yngwie Malmsteem I can't agree with you more! I am really happy to see someone feels like me about technique and musicality.

PaulJones9
@pauljones
3 years ago
26 posts

Spoonman: Of course! Technique is important because it allows you to express clearly what you're playing, but when you pay too much attention on technique, musicality is often sacrificed. It's like trying to tell a story with too many complicated words and phrases instead of getting to the point. ('You're talking a lot-but you're not saying anything' as the Talking Heads would say :p). Plus, since music talks a lot about who makes it, by only showing off your technical skills you will come out as cocky and self indulgent (I'm looking at you, Yngwie). A lot of people get impressed by musicians who can play really fast solos, but someone with a good taste in music pays more attention to music as a whole instead of the personal skills of each musician.  Mark Knopfler is an excelent example- his technique is flawless, but what really makes his playing unique and interesting is his choice of notes and how he plays them- which has nothing to do with technique by itself. I'm happy to know more people who think like this too :) Cheers!

Fusk8
@favio-montealegre
3 years ago
16 posts

I agree, yngwie malmsteem turns boring after a couple of songs, but he is really a great player.. some people enjoy his music and some people don't, i would consider it my least favorite along with gero ramiro from the band Saratoga, he sure is another great player but i just think hes solos are a bit random too. I personally love guitarrists like east bay ray from the dead kennedys, i love the energy he transmits and his creativity.

Flekador
@fl3k
3 years ago
42 posts

@pauljones I couldn't agree more with you. In my opinion technique comes after music, it is good as long as it serves to further enhance the message the song is trying to transmit. In my opinion, it wouldn't be the main aspect of one's music, as it will become boring and mechanic inmediately. I think the best guitarist are those who can find equlibrium between technique and meaningful melodies, progressions or rythm patterns.

In general, I can't say I don't like those technic based players, because I recognize what they do has great value as a skill display, but their style doesn't touch me and gets me bored easily.

Fusk8
@favio-montealegre
2 years ago
16 posts

I recently read this phrase:

''I’d rather hear Dave Gilmour playing one note and break my heart, than hearing Joe Satriani playing 300 notes and not touch me in any way at all''

Steven Wilson.

Flekador
@fl3k
2 years ago
42 posts

Great quote. I totally agree with it!

PaulJones9
@pauljones
2 years ago
26 posts

Exactly!

wknellor
@wknellor
2 years ago
1 posts

sometimes the most simple things are the most effective.....and if it is from the sole....can't go wrong

alixdup
@alix
2 years ago
5 posts

I love the quote too. Emotion...

ChristopherE
@christophere
2 years ago
2 posts

These virtuoso guitar players are in my opinion at their best when they are confined to playing within the structure of a song... Steve Vai's work with David Lee Roth (Billy Sheehan on the bass), Joe Satriani with Chickenfoot... Yngwie Malmsteem though..... I could tolerate his brand of shredding with the Japanese Philharmonic, for the duration of a song but other than that.... suppose it's either him or Michael Angelo Batio..... 

David Gilmore...... what more can be said *Guitar God!! 


updated by @christophere: 01 Nov 2017 14:51:34
mikenova
@mikenova
2 years ago
14 posts

Great guitarist is more great, when he plays great songs in a great band). Song is the first.

MatthiasG
@matthiasg
2 years ago
14 posts

[quote="Sotonushka"]

Hey there guys!

We all know that everyone has their own short list of favorite musicians. Most of them inspired us to start playing musical instruments and we may use them as role models and learn from them. Topics about most favorite musicians exist on every music-related forum. And how about sharing your least favorite musicians? Those who disappointed you at some point. Let's not mention our neighbors or "that guy from the show last night" and focus on those more or less famous.

I'll start.

Recently I had a "pleasure" to pick up a Destruction song by ear. As one of the most iconic German Thrash Metal bands they sure have their own sound which in their case is raw. It didn't help me so I had to slow the track down a little and split in mono channels. What I heard there was awful their Guitarist didn't bother himself with matching the guitar parts, sometimes he simply skipped notes and acted rather random. So Mike Sefinger from Destruction is one of my least favorite guitarists now.

Another one I'd like to mention is not a celebrity but a well known person for those who belong to youtube guitar community. I'm talking about Rob Scallon. I'm subscribed to his channel, I adore his precise technique and his comedy videos, but I can't stand his original music. Utilizing tapping, slap and and finger picking he, as I see it, focuses more on complexity rather than composition.

Now your turn, guys. And remember, everything is IMHO, so don't get much into argument =)

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LOL!! No harm. Just remember that artists are super sensitive to criticism and can even self-destruct...!

FullBend
@fullbend
2 years ago
1 posts

@sotonushka  I completely agree that there are renowned guitarists out there, that they really make things unnecessarily complex and they're just showing off and many of them may not even be as good in their playing as they should . I personally don't care if they're virtuosos, I care about what I listen to. For any form of art, if anyone makes things extremely technical and just applies templates that are already well established, he/she's not an artist; he/she just mixes and matches things and put them in order - that is of no benefit to the art itself and doesn't make them artists.

Technique skills is an important part of the skillset of an accomplished guitarist but it is just that, a part. Nothing more - nothing less. For the last three decades or so, playing technically and insanely fast has become the trend. On the one hand, I don't blame musicians for this because music industry always needs to find new trends in order to be attractive but  on the other hand, this killed real music in my opinion. There is no reason for a guitarist to chase witches in his playing with very complex techniques and insanely fast playing. Unfortunately he/she has to do so in order to survive competition. But again, this is far from real music. I have grown up with bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, AC/DC in the 80s, when I was in my youth. Each band had its own personality and there was a lot of melodic playing that made metal epic. Speed playing was very limited compared to today's songs but I clearly see this as an advantage.

Now, I really admire David Gilmour myself too, as I admire Jimi Hendrix, Jimi Page, Angus Young, Dave Murray, Toni Iommi ... and the list goes on - order is not significant of anything except Jimi Hendrix, that I think he deserves something more. And I just talk about rock and metal. Other genres had their giants too, as we all know. An important lesson to learn, for today's guitarists, is that Less is more . I think that it is one of the most important skills that we must apply in our playing regarding solo. To a beginner guitarist this may seem counter-intuitive but it is taught by the best teachers on guitar and for very good reason.


updated by @fullbend: 22 Nov 2017 03:33:54